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coucouxiao
Post  Post subject: An ideal alternatives of big bang theory  |  Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:03 am

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If don't go to search the problem from general relativity itself, trying to reinvent the wheel to set up the new theory instead of the big bang model will be shallow, could not succeed. Certainly, such opinion to say the general relativity no merit is either very inadvisable, this is actually the nihilism in science. However big bang cosmology must be replaced because it goes against the logic of science, besides it there are structural and directional errors. Big bang theory is in a disastrous state, its position of pseudo science is more and more clear, more and more scholars are abandoning the doctrine. Chinese scholar Yang Jian liang set out the establishment of alternative theories of big bang theory via modifying Einstein gravitational field equation and has improved and expanded the theory and application of general relativity. In fact,if general relativity continue to keep present situation and stop development it will indeed be overthrow or substituted soon. The modified field equations persists as simple and elegant as the original equation, unlike other modifications that only considering the need to cater to the cosmology, free added items to basic equations and so that Newton's law of gravitation is not allowed in the very weak spherically symmetric gravitational field, obviously such modified field equation cannot continue be called gravitational field equation because it has no thing to do with gravitation. The new alternative theory abandons the instant creation of big bang and accept Hoyle’s thought of slow continuous creation and on logic more closely, can better explain the observed facts. The new theory shows that not only the space between galaxies but also galaxy itself are in expansion all along in the same proportion - -- today’s sky seen in magnifier is the practical sky after several years, new materials generate continuously in the celestial, for example, the sun and the earth are increasing constantly, the distance between they is becoming more and more far, The sun's rays is brighter and brighter than getting dark, the earth is getting hotter. The irrefutable fact that sun is more and more bright is not explained by the big bang theory, according to the big bang theory the temperature of the universe is getting lower, the sun has no exception of cause its temperature become higher, if gravitational contraction makes the sun brighter, this can also apply to other celestial bodies and must lead to today's temperature of the entire universe is higher than after big bang when matter did not gather and the Big Bang is unable to justify own argument. Yang liang liang’s paper “Modification of gravitational field equation and rational solution to cosmological puzzles ”and “The Motion in a Central Field under Considering Space-time Expansion---- A Ideal Reclaim of Hoyle’s Steady Universe”


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Post  Post subject: Re: An ideal alternatives of big bang theory  |  Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:17 am
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surely you must realise that the big bang theory is designed to explain the overall structure, movements and mass concentrations in the universe ?

it has nothing to do with the life cycle of stars, and as such the sun getting hotter as it progresses in its life cycle has no bearing on the big bang theory

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Post  Post subject: Re: An ideal alternatives of big bang theory  |  Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:34 am
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The poster [1] has been pushing this since at least 2002 on various fora and doesn't reply to requests provide explanation other than to either repeat assertions or expand on them with further (unsupported) assertions.
I doubt any actual discussion will be forthcoming.

1 presumably the same person despite different user names: the wording is similar in all posts.


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Post  Post subject: Re: An ideal alternatives of big bang theory  |  Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:59 am
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Moved to New Hypotheses and Fringe Ideas

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Post  Post subject: Re: An ideal alternatives of big bang theory  |  Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:17 am

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if big bang tieory can not explain the sun is becoming hotter, this means big bang theory can not reflect essential link between things and therefore no use big bang theory has


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Post  Post subject: Re: An ideal alternatives of big bang theory  |  Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:24 am
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You're position is akin to saying evolution is wrong for not explaining creation (or, more appropriate, for not explaining wind).

Are you familiar with the logical fallacy known as nonsequitur?

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Post  Post subject: Re: An ideal alternatives of big bang theory  |  Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:40 pm

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the new alternative theory via correcting Einstein's field equation of big bang can explain observations better and don't need introduce any other hypothesis such as dark matter and dark energy, besides, the new theory can explain gravitational anomaly in the solar system, which are observed recently


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Post  Post subject: Re: An ideal alternatives of big bang theory  |  Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:42 pm
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coucouxiao wrote:
if big bang tieory can not explain the sun is becoming hotter, this means big bang theory can not reflect essential link between things and therefore no use big bang theory has


then again, the germ theory of disease cannot explain why the sun is getting hotter - it doesn't mean that it doesn't have explanatory power in its own field if applicability

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Post  Post subject: Re: An ideal alternatives of big bang theory  |  Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:21 pm

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the big bang as a theory to describe cosmic evolution must reflect how the sun or the earth works and goes to, this is most underlying, otherwise the big bang theory proves shallow and need deeply reform.


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Post  Post subject: Re: An ideal alternatives of big bang theory  |  Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:24 pm
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as I've already stated, the scope of the Big Bang theory is such that it does not have to concern itself with the evolution of stars and planets, and as such I disagree with your statement that it "must reflect how the sun or the earth works" - imo their function can be approached and explained independent of whether the Big Bang theory is true or even complete

hence your premise that the Big Bang theory needs to be revised is based on very shaky grounds indeed

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Post  Post subject: Re: An ideal alternatives of big bang theory  |  Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:52 am

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the new alternative theory to big bang doesn't need any other hypothesis, and only via correcting Einstein's field equation arrive in the purpose to reform the current standard cosmology, therefore the framework of general relativity doesn't change and so-called ground is still the same one, you can not say the ground shaky. It is your mistake that you don't think big bang reflect the evolution of the sun and the earth, if cosmic model cann't reflect local physical facts the theory then has no meaning and will be abandoned sooner and later


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Post  Post subject: Re: An ideal alternatives of big bang theory  |  Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:03 am

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he new alternative theory to big bang doesn't need any other hypothesis, and only via correcting Einstein's field equation arrive in the purpose to reform the current standard cosmology, therefore the framework of general relativity doesn't change and so-called ground is still the same one, you can not say the ground shaky. It is your mistake that you don't think big bang must reflect the evolution of the sun and the earth, if a cosmic model cann't reflect local physical facts the theory then has no scientific meaning and will be abandoned sooner and later. to reflec local physical facts should be the most underlying requirement for cosmic model


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Post  Post subject: Re: An ideal alternatives of big bang theory  |  Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:53 am
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Ok. That's enough. You're ignoring all counter points and merely repeating yourself.

Thread locked.

Do not reintroduce this topic if you wish to maintain posting privileges here.

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