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Getting 1500 dollars in free gifts cards sounds cool! You could get a nice tablet with your 500 dollar VISA or Walmart gift card. Just remember that gift cards can expire or can be subject to fees, like inactivity fees, which can diminish its value.

I finally got them about a week and a half ago. Used a good chunk of the Walmart on home improvement type stuff. I'm using the VISA card in place of using my normal bank account. I figured it would benefit me more to save more actual cash. I did buy my girlfriend a new cell phone though. She was eligible to upgrade on our plan, so now she has the HTC 10. It's a pretty good phone, although I prefer my HTC One M9.

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I wish I had cartoon drawing skills, because I have this brilliant one in my head, with as caption "America first ... to race over the cliff edge"

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Give the idea to shlunka, he's a talented cartoonist.

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Yeah he's awesome. Pitch the idea before he overdoses on Air Supply songs.

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i have this vision of lemmings racing over the cliff edge, with Trump taking on a superman pose and egging them on, screaming "Forward!!!"

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What's the fascination with darts in the land of UK? When I flick on the tv sports channels here in Canada there's usually some dart tournament going on. That stadium dart spectacle is quite the format, the male competitors ushered to the stage escorted by scantily clad, drop dead gorgeous runway models, like boxers in a prize fight. Never seen a female darter in this scenario, Then there's the guy with the microphone and voice giving the 3 dart report along with the score required to win when it gets down near the end of a game. 'ONE HUNDRED AND EIIIGGGGHHHHTTTTYY.' Sorry, just had to put that one in there.

I've never noticed it but I'm sure there's a huge dart board screen showing the actual results of the throws. The crowd usually decked out like it's Halloween and I assume, drunker than skunks. I always wonder if there are designated drivers in that bunch. Looks like a hell of a lot of fun going on and I must say, it appears to be a great place to meet the opposite sex. Out of curiousity, what's the cost of admission? What kind of money do they make on beer sales?

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What's the fascination with darts in the land of UK?


I'm absolutely baffled about it, and I've watched its progress over many years. If anybody wanted to get some idea of the differences between social classes in England, a good pointer is the assertion that it is about as working class as any activity could get. It is the typical activity in a working class pub. It started off on TV with overweight blokes with large beer bellies throwing darts and swigging vast quantities of beer while the opponent had his turn. At some point they decided this was a bad image and decided to ban the beer, but the crowd with its comments and cheering has not changed a bit.

I think it's totally pointless, but then I have poor eye-body coordination and I'm useless at it. And I hate the pub environment. Incidentally, I know one or two people who are essentially innumerate and simply can't do any arithmetic except subtraction, at which they are extremely proficient up to 180. :P


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I play darts (I'm pretty good at it). I still consume lots of beer while playing, but then I've never been on TV ;)

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I play darts (I'm pretty good at it). I still consume lots of beer while playing, but then I've never been on TV ;)


I saw a hilarious spoof on TV once which showed a beer-swilling competition where they took it in turn to swig beer, and played darts in the background when the opponent was swigging. An exact reversal of the darts games. :lol:


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I remember it. IIRC it was Mel Smith and Griff Rhys Jones on Not the Nine O'Clock News (or it could have been their own show Alas Smith and Jones).

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I remember it. IIRC it was Mel Smith and Griff Rhys Jones on Not the Nine O'Clock News (or it could have been their own show Alas Smith and Jones).


Yes - that's it. I couldn't remember the names :lol: :lol:


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Great video and good laugh. :lol:

Many of the competitors I see aren't exactly slim. I remember years ago they would show darts on Canadian Sports TV only if there was absolutely nothing else. I do remember a guy named Jockey Wilson who had an enormous belly, he could set a pint on it while throwing the damn dart. That guy was pretty good. I kind of like the beer component of the whole event.

I get a kick out of their nicknames (i.e. The Power) and shirts to match. That one guy with the punk hairdo, I think his name is Wright, seems to be a huge fan favorite. I guess the money is good.

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Today I heard that jogging does not make any difference... Jogging is the only thing I do... and I do it sometimes... :( I hate gyms...


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Today I heard that jogging does not make any difference... Jogging is the only thing I do... and I do it sometimes... :( I hate gyms...


But gyms don't do much for actual fitness either, depending on how you use them.


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Today I heard that jogging does not make any difference... Jogging is the only thing I do... and I do it sometimes... :( I hate gyms...

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Like it doesn't improve your physical state...


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Like it doesn't improve your physical state...


Where did you see that?


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I heard it on the radio. I have to look it up


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There were all kinds of reports in newspapers several years ago that jogging does not improve your physical fitness. Of course, I have no specific evidence to offer.


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I jogged for years... All it did was knacker my knees!

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I jogged for years... All it did was knacker my knees!
Well that was what I heard. It stopped you exercising later in life as a consequence. A friend of mine also suffered a stress fracture in the ankle.
Poor Andrew Marr is also seemingly an example of over zeolotry and lack of caution in this area.

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We must be clear whether we're talking about improving our shape, our weight, our immune system, our metabolism, our etc... It's generally a sloppiness of language that leads to such confusion.

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We must be clear whether we're talking about improving our shape, our weight, our immune system, our metabolism, our etc... It's generally a sloppiness of language that leads to such confusion.

Is it possible to boost one's immune system? I have never heard of that. The only strategies I can imagine would be vaccinations or perhaps by not exposing oneself to overly sterile environments.

Maybe general exercise to boost ones overall physical condition would also benefit the immune system?

Has anything been shown to be effective in a demonstrable way?


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Depends on how vigorous the exercise and over what time period you're studying the immune response, but generally... yes. Exercise is all around good for health and wellbeing, even if you don't necessarily lose weight or turn magically into a supermodel from it. It also appears to help us on a genetic level, but more work remains to be done before we can comment on that with any level of confidence and certainty.

http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-h ... une-system
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It improves cardiovascular health, lowers blood pressure, helps control body weight, and protects against a variety of diseases. But does it help maintain a healthy immune system? Just like a healthy diet, exercise can contribute to general good health and therefore to a healthy immune system. It may contribute even more directly by promoting good circulation, which allows the cells and substances of the immune system to move through the body freely and do their job efficiently.
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What about moderate exercise for average people? Does it help keep the immune system healthy? For now, even though a direct beneficial link hasn't been established, it's reasonable to consider moderate regular exercise to be a beneficial arrow in the quiver of healthy living, a potentially important means for keeping your immune system healthy along with the rest of your body.

One approach that could help researchers get more complete answers about whether lifestyle factors such as exercise help improve immunity takes advantage of the sequencing of the human genome. This opportunity for research based on updated biomedical technology can be employed to give a more complete answer to this and similar questions about the immune system. For example, microarrays or "gene chips" based on the human genome allow scientists to look simultaneously at how thousands of gene sequences are turned on or off in response to specific physiological conditions — for example, blood cells from athletes before and after exercise. Researchers hope to use these tools to analyze patterns in order to better understand how the many pathways involved act at once.


Elite athletes tend to be the ones where exercise causes lowering of immune function, but that's generally because they're pushing the limits so hard and so much of their body's energy is spent repairing damage done (as opposed to enjoying the benefits of increased bloodflow and metabolism that most moderate exercisers... us more average people... experience).

Note: I'm hardly an expert in this space and remain open to correction from anyone closer to current research.

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I jogged for many years. However i like to think of it not as jogging but running. For a long while I lived very close to the Welland Canal and every second day I would run along a nice path from one lock to another, a two way distance anywhere from 5-8 km. I don't smoke, drink very little and despite all that running I ended up with Atrial Fibrillation, Arrhythmia, high blood pressure and a cancerous tumor. I now have to take 4 separate medications every day for the rest of my life. Was it the running? Nah, genetic. My brothers have similar afflictions. However all is not bad, I continue to referee all levels of basketball as my avocation with no problems at all. Plenty of running there.

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Somebody has just messaged me to say how sad it is that there are more black people inside Beyoncé right now than there are in the entire cabinet team of Trump.


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I simply do not have the energy to discuss politics this week, although Arnold Schwarzenegger did issue a great video response to the National Prayer breakfast statements made by Trump.

In other news, it was -14F here last night. Still frigid outside.

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I simply do not have the energy to discuss politics this week....it was -14F here last night


I'm was born apolitical. I use my energy for more worthwhile endeavors, although I find this Trump stuff hilarious. Do you think Lady Gaga will go off on The Donald during half time of the Super Bowl? NFL is probably holding their breath.... I hope she does just for the entertainment value. (American football for you folks on the other side of the pond).

Falconer: Warm it up before I get out there will ya?

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Falconer360 wrote:
I simply do not have the energy to discuss politics this week....it was -14F here last night


I'm was born apolitical. I use my energy for more worthwhile endeavors, although I find this Trump stuff hilarious. Do you think Lady Gaga will go off on The Donald during half time of the Super Bowl? NFL is probably holding their breath.... I hope she does just for the entertainment value. (American football for you folks on the other side of the pond).

Falconer: Warm it up before I get out there will ya?


I doubt she will. The half time shows always seem to be pretty concise, with no real time for the performers to talk. Although it would be good entertainment. And I'll go see what I can do about the weather lol. It's frigging snowing today, which is actually good because we had fallen below our average snowpack level. I could do without a bad fire season this year.

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It's been a while since I don't post a cat picture. So cute...

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It's been a while since I don't post a cat picture. So cute...


Yes - and by the way, I always get this wrong in Spanish, which I find totally illogical: It's been a while since I posted..... :)


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It's been a while since I don't post a cat picture. So cute...


Yes - and by the way, I always get this wrong in Spanish, which I find totally illogical: It's been a while since I posted..... :)


Ahhhh I missed this. Thanks


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By the way I think I reported your post. I didn't see the quote button, heeheheheb

Not that I can see...

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By the way I think I reported your post. I didn't see the quote button, heeheheheb

Not that I can see...


Great!! thanks!


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M_Gabriela wrote:
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M_Gabriela wrote:
It's been a while since I don't post a cat picture. So cute...


Yes - and by the way, I always get this wrong in Spanish, which I find totally illogical: It's been a while since I posted..... :)


Ahhhh I missed this. Thanks


By the way I think I reported your post. I didn't see the quote button, heeheheheb

Interesting ,both the tense and the negative/positive status change between the two languages here. It is present /negative in Spanish and past/positive in English ,seemingly.


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What would I do without you all.....


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What would I do without you all.....

Be incessantly bored? :D

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...or persistently ungrammatical ;)

(seriously though your English is way better than I could do in a foreign language)

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M_Gabriela wrote:
What would I do without you all.....

Be incessantly bored? :D


So true...


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...or persistently ungrammatical ;)

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Also true....


Or... true also.

No... the first one.


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...or persistently ungrammatical ;)

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Also true....


Or... true also.

No... the first one.


Correct choice :)


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Is there a law similar to Godwin's Law that refers to cute pics of cats on the internet? Doesn't necessarily mean the thread has been killed but perhaps indicates the thread needs spicing up or as some have suggested, boredom has crept into it?

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Somebody has come up with a good title for Trump: Scrotus - So-Called Ruler Of the US.

I think I'll use the latin version: Scrotus Maximus


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Somebody has come up with a good title for Trump: Scrotus - So-Called Ruler Of the US.

I think I'll use the latin version: Scrotus Maximus

:lol: :lol: :lol: That's great!

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You know what they say about Trump. He's a hell of a bridge player.
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On another forum, somebody annoying is using the tactic of accusing me of exactly what I wanted to accuse him of. It makes no sense that way round, but it's an effective way of preempting my accusations. Does anybody know if there a technical term for this rhetorical device? ("Being an arsehole" is not specific enough)


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Post  Post subject: Re: the off-topic thread  |  Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:18 am

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DrKrettin wrote:
On another forum, somebody annoying is using the tactic of accusing me of exactly what I wanted to accuse him of. It makes no sense that way round, but it's an effective way of preempting my accusations. Does anybody know if there a technical term for this rhetorical device? ("Being an arsehole" is not specific enough)


I think that's the "tu quoque" fallacy (or dirty trick ;)) at least that is the closest one I can think of...

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

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Post  Post subject: Re: the off-topic thread  |  Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:10 am
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PhDemon wrote:
DrKrettin wrote:
On another forum, somebody annoying is using the tactic of accusing me of exactly what I wanted to accuse him of. It makes no sense that way round, but it's an effective way of preempting my accusations. Does anybody know if there a technical term for this rhetorical device? ("Being an arsehole" is not specific enough)


I think that's the "tu quoque" fallacy (or dirty trick ;)) at least that is the closest one I can think of...

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Tu_quoque



Hmmm - thanks - it's almost there. I'll have to think about that. Meanwhile, I have an excellent example of tu quoque from my youth, when my brother was arguing about the relative merits of gas-fired and electric ovens with my mother.

Brother: "and also, the thermal capacity of a gas oven is much larger, so you could cook a rice pudding in it after you've switched it off."
Mother: "but you don't like rice pudding anyway"

(is that a tu quoque?)


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