Post subject:Re: Credit | Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:06 am
Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:44 am Posts: 453 Location: Newcastle-upon-Tyne
Who is telling you this is a bad thing? It was one of the main motivating drives behind my research career (along with just playing with cool toys and finding stuff out!) Any academic who is honest will admit it plays a large part in their decision making.
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Post subject:Re: Credit | Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:59 am
Joined: Wed May 07, 2014 6:02 am Posts: 1895
The attitude is implicit pretty well everywhere - but two things reminded me of it.
Yesterday I was on the Edinburgh train and I saw a man who I think may hsve been suffering from cancer or, if not, then from some other phyiscal or mental ailment. He was wearing a bandana on his head and was extremely thin. But the reason I noticed him was his eyes. I cannot fully capture the profundity of the expression in his striking blue eyes. A look of extreme concentration, or realisation - but it was more than that. I imagined it to be a contemplation of mortality by an especially powerful mind. And I felt a sense of scientific duty.
Then at night I was watching TED talks and I came across this one on the theme of home:
"If your intentions are to impress people or to get the big applause at the end then you are taking not giving" (04:30)
I'm tired of being told what I am and am not allowed to feel.
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no, not really (not with any frequency or commonality, anyway)
I think there's generally a preference for things to be done altruistically, for the betterment of the larger group, as opposed to doing things for individual accolades and self-aggrandizement, but even altruism itself often has selfish drivers (to feel better and to be better accepted by the group and protect kin with shared genes, for example)
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Post subject:Re: Credit | Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 7:01 pm
Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 962 Location: Somewhere in the Great State of Washington
I know several paleontologists who are totally in it for the glory and getting to see their name in paper. I don't think they're wrong for that, I do find their egos to be a bit tedious to deal with at times though. Hell I was super excited to have a fossil I found used a paratype for a new species of Nuphar, and to see it in publication. In paleontology at least, the researchers get better grant opportunities if they have more valid publications with their names attached, so it seems many people are trying to publish papers with the sole intent of getting their name out there.
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