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marnixR
Post  Post subject: scatological question  |  Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:06 pm
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the thought just occurred to when visiting the loo : when was toilet paper first invented, and what did people do prior to that happy day ?

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Post  Post subject: Re: Scatological question  |  Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:51 pm
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According to Wikipedia it was invented by the Chinese in or before 6 AD. Before that people probably just washed their arses with water.

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Post  Post subject: Re: scatological question  |  Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:00 pm
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i wonder whether it would be rather hard on the bottom, a bit like trying to use newspaper

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Post  Post subject: Re: scatological question  |  Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:06 am
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Do any non-human animals wipe their butts after defecating?

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Post  Post subject: Re: scatological question  |  Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:57 am
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not really + then it depends on the consistency of their poo whether their bottom looks dirty
cows can have very dirty bottoms, but i don't know whether that's anything to do the way we keep them + whether wild cows are the same

still, the mind boggles how standards of hygiene must have been different in those times - nowadays can you imagine being a hit with the ladies if your personal hygiene isn't up to scratch ?

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Post  Post subject: Re: Scatological question  |  Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:48 am
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Post  Post subject: Re: scatological question  |  Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:15 am
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Do any non-human animals wipe their butts after defecating?


No, and humans probably wouldn't either, if they defecated as they originally did: squatting. Typically that position leaves less residue, apparently (at least according to an article, that I cannot find, on the virtues of Japanese toilets).


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Post  Post subject: Re: scatological question  |  Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:01 am
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Tissue paper isn't a very hygienic way of cleaning oneself afterwards, if you think about it. Those cultures that use running water to clean that area probably have superior personal hygiene. The most convenient and effective way would probably be wet wipes containing antimicrobial agents - one that is flushable, sinxe having dirty wet wipes hanging around in the bin will be hazardous to health.

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Post  Post subject: Re: scatological question  |  Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:51 pm
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Rory wrote:
Tissue paper isn't a very hygienic way of cleaning oneself afterwards, if you think about it. Those cultures that use running water to clean that area probably have superior personal hygiene. The most convenient and effective way would probably be wet wipes containing antimicrobial agents - one that is flushable, sinxe having dirty wet wipes hanging around in the bin will be hazardous to health.


Another virtue of the Japanese toilet: the bidet. :D


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Rory
Post  Post subject: Re: scatological question  |  Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:11 pm
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The Japanese cultivate zen even when they go pee-pee

Squatting is probably more hygienic than sitting on a toilet seat - no part of the body other than the feet comes into contact with potentially contaminated surfaces. It may well also be healthier for the intestines in terms of reducing pressure - humankind probably started out by squatting and only later assumed a seated position. As such the body has probably adapted to the squatting position.

It's quite gross when you consider that, in the West, there is an unspoken expectation that multiple users will share the same toilet seat (although obviously not simultaneously :shock: that would be a very gross world indeed). There is no provision of communal surface-disinfectant or toilet seats covers and the seats probably only get cleaned once or twice a day at most. Personally I never sit on communal toilet seats.

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Post  Post subject: Re: scatological question  |  Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:53 pm
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Another disgusting habit: when people don't put the toilet seat down before flushing.

Yeah, you've just made a microbe-catapult.

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Post  Post subject: Re: scatological question  |  Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:09 pm
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They've just stirred the fecal cloud! :lol:

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Post  Post subject: Re: scatological question  |  Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:14 pm
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iNow wrote:
They've just stirred the fecal cloud! :lol:



Not a pleasant mental image! lol :lol:

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Post  Post subject: Re: scatological question  |  Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:38 am
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Standing under a poo cyclone without an umbrella

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Post  Post subject: Re: scatological question  |  Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:52 am
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Falconer360 wrote:
Not a pleasant mental image! lol

Ever since the first time that thought crossed my mind I've put the seat down before flushing every time.

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Post  Post subject: Re: scatological question  |  Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:39 pm
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Same here. I hate when I see toilets without the lidded seat... Makes me want to cleanse the room... In fire... :twisted:

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Rory
Post  Post subject: Re: scatological question  |  Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:01 pm
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The only good thing about toilets for which the seat is still up is, that you don't have to touch the rim of the seat before using the toilet.

So, really, the ideal situation would be for the users to place the lid down before flushing and for the lids to be raised after sufficient time has passed that the cyclone effect has ceased. I wonder if we could employ people to do that, lid-raisers. There, I have just solved the recession AND improved public health.

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